"EVE is harsh on day one, and stays that way," Syncaine writes. "WoW holds your hand from 1-80, and makes sure you get a cookie regardless if you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place."

"it is the soldier, not the reporter,
who gives us the freedom of the press.

it is the Soldier, not the poet
who gives us freedom of speech

it is the Soldier, not the lawyer
who gives us the right to a fair trial.

It is the Soldier,
who salutes the flag,
who serves under the flag,
whose coffin is draped by the flag
and who allows the protestor to burn the flag"

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boondocksaint622 > PvP Blue Balls.............getting on EvE and being told to form up for iminante epic PvP action......then returning to station to ship spin cause nothing happened